Welcome to the Dissident Mama podcast, episode 18. Today my guest is Carl Jones, past Chief of Heritage Operations for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, past Alabama Division Commander of the SCV, current Army of Tennessee Councilman, and NRA Certified Firearms Instructor. Jones and I talk about hot topics including Confederate ancestry, what it means to be unReconstructed, his recent interview with PBS, the GOP’s complicity in Southern cultural genocide, a recent “debate” he had with BLM, Kyle Rittenhouse, what I call “the archetype,” and localism.
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That was just wonderful. I have to say, Carl is one of the smartest and most articulate people I have the honor of knowing. The man is brilliant and we are VERY fortunate to have him on our side. Great interview!
Well now, you can’t beat that kinda input! Agreed, Carl’s fighting the good fight for sure, and he’s waaaaaaay smarter than he gives himself credit for. Savvy AND humble to the bone – that’s probably why I like him so much. As always, thanks for listening!
I’ll listen in later. Just wanted to say in the meantime, after having read your intro, that this episode and the subject matter is right up my alley. In part because my Morris (and other) ancestors all came from Blountsville, Blount County AL during the early “Reconstruction” years and settled in Ellis County TX for a time. From there a group of them, including my great great Grandfather, James H. Morris and family, migrated northward and settled at Cornish, I.T. (Indian Territory). This is why I sometimes brag that me and mine are direct descendants of the original “Mudcreekers”; the authentic Mudcreekers.
As the story goes (and was written and published in a 1965 article about the J.H. Morris family commemorating the 50th anniversary of settlement of our little town – an original copy of which article I have in my possession), the family traveled from Ellis County in the Fall of 1889 along with twelve other young families all in covered wagons, ferried across Red River at Courtney Flats and continued northward a few miles, eventually camping for several weeks along the banks this side of Mud Creek. Hence the name “Mudcreekers.”
When I was a kid growng up in the mid-70s we actually lived near the very spot in an old farm house that still stands to this day, although it was abandoned long ago and is in a much delapidated condition at this date. My cousins and I spent many many weekends at that time traipsing up and down Mud Creek, camping along its banks, searching for arrow heads and other Indian artifacts, and that sort of thing. Little did my cousins and I know at the time about the history of the area, or that we were treading the very ground – the very spot almost – where our ancestors had first camped some ninety years before.
Can’t wait to listen to the episode. My roots can be traced back to Tennessee as well.
I always love your shared family history and experiences, TM. Being a part of a people and a people – well, there’s nothin’ finer than that. 🙂 Look forward to hearing your thoughts on my chat with Carl.
Enjoyed listening to Carl Jones and the one take-away for me is Localism! I’m descended from a man from New York who fought for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Tennessee for the USA as a country. His descendants were anti-South Republicans into the 1920’s who considered the Democrat Party the Party of Southern traitors! I did genealogical research and found a diary to prove it!
However, I suspect Carl Jones, Dissident Mama and I will be voting for Pres. Donald Trump originally of New York in Nov! Bet Carl Jones and Dissident Mama now considers the modern democ-RAT Party of Barack Obama and Joe Bribe’m/Biden the same way I do too-the Party of traitors except my view was passed down further back! No lie!
One thing Carl Jones and those descended from Southern Confederates can take heart in, I would be eligible for the Grand Army of the Republic who were staunch Republicans all the way to the last one died and it died out completely in 1956 with the demise of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Woolson but unlike the Confederates didn’t allow their descendants to keep it going so my ancestors won the War but have no descendants belonging to an Org to show for it! Interesting from my ancestry’s viewpoint, the modern Dims are treating Pres. Trump the way it would be argued by fierce GOP Unionists of the late 19th century that the southern Democrats of the 1860 era treated President-Elect, Abraham Lincoln so it is nice that we are all in agreement from opposite ends, coming together today! Hooray!
Ironically still, I was born in Savannah, GA to a military man stationed there, spent my childhood in VA that is scarcely American any more based on who it votes for in national elections and now live in TX! My Civil War ancestor’s grandson ended up living in FL in the 1920’s and was conscious of the fact that he was living among Southerners and didn’t like the fact that his kids spoke like southerners from FL not like he spoke from NY that he considered proper American English! I suspect both me and my late father tended to be grammatically more correct and more concerned about syntax than average folks as a final inheritance! Last, the founders of the NRA were all Republican unionists which org’s headquarters had to leave NYC because of issues with the Democrat Irish of NYC facing off with Republican natives who didn’t much care for them either! A lot has changed but it is a little interesting how we are all in the same place now on Dissident Mama! Cheers and super Summer, rightists!
Wow, welcome to the party, CAP! I’m in throes of writing a blog post about how I won’t be voting for Trump (and I call it “throes” because I’m also working on about 10 other essays, lol). I am no Democrat, that’s for sure, but the Republicans do absolutely nothing for me and my family. Nothing. I don’t want stuff, like the left does, but if you’re gonna have a reparations package why can’t it be called the White America Plan, or even better, the Southern America Plan, in which I’m paid reparations for the killing and purposeful poverty of my Confederate ancestors, the 50+ years of “civil rights” schemes that take from me and give to thee and promote unequal justice under the law and inequity within housing, education, jobs, etc., as well as the fact that Southerners have been the lion’s share of soldiers fighting and dying for America’s many, many stupid wars. That’s what I want. But alas, the GOP continues to shit on the Southern man and his children. I cannot be a part of it any longer, especially when the Repubes keep coddling the very ingrates who are rioting and killing and fomenting anti-whiteness, which is a war on my children.
Your history and ancestry are fascinating. You should read some of my older blog posts to get a better feel fro where I’m coming from, anti-Lincoln, anti-centralization, anti-Yankee wise. It may curl your toe nails, but perhaps you may be introduced to some viewpoints you’ve not heard before. Thanks for sharing and hope to hear from you again soon – especially when I get my Trump piece done. My guess is, you will have much to say about it. 🙂
I’ve been pondering what I think is along the lines of “Localism”; I call it “Love thy neighbor” though. i.e. My thought is that one needs to make it their highest priority to have or get neighbors (literally next door to you) that are on your same page. Perhaps I am only projecting my guilt, but if you do not even know who lives nextdoor to you then you are just as good as lost in the diaspora.
An example I saw was of a man dragged out of a school board meeting because he refused to wear a mask while all of the other parents sat idly by and watched him be dragged out. This behavior will lead us to the gulags. I perhaps imagine this scenario _could_ have been prevented had this man had a good relationship with his neighbors. Perhaps again I am day dreaming, but I also think there is some big loss in that were have not “Loved they neighbor”. We’ve been short-circuited by the soap opera on facebook and the bigger national political scene.
I think your point about the lacking localism is made clear by the recent incident in which a woman was tased while at her son’s football game and people just sat around and watched … with shock and horror, for sure, but not one of them lent her a hand. Not one of them stood up for her. Not one of them tried to stop the madness and defend a neighbor. We live in a deracinated transplant culture and I, for one, simply am not willing to beat my head against the wall to force people to do something they just don’t want to do. They like moving from bigger house to bigger house. They like moving for jobs and promotions and leaving family and friends behind is just no big deal to them. They like that their corporation is their “family,” as long as their paycheck is large enough. They like the culture of stuff and immediacy. They can just live through the lives of pretend people they see on Netflix and Amazon Prime, or just forge relationships in chat groups and online porn. Who need roots when you have social media and zoom? Who needs human contact when you have every institution telling you that “stay safe, stay home” is the best thing you can do for humanity? What they won’t like is when the big, bad state or their jack-booted BLM-Antifa foot soldiers come for them and there’s no one there to say, “Hey, maybe that’s not a good idea.” Who needs real virtue when you have the sham of anti-racist, pro-mask virtue-signaling? I think the only thing that will bring about localism is a complete collapse of the system, and from the ashes will rise a localist phoenix because like-minded will ban together to further a common goal: survival. Until then, Muricans are still too comfortably numb with the status quo. And families will come back to share a worldview, which they so often do not now; that too is part of the problem, IMHO. Family just ain’t what it used to be.